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Friday, December 3, 2010

Uncle Carl's Germany 1945 Sepia Saturday Week 52 (Click here to go to the Sepia site)


1944 on the way to Germany
This Sepia I share some select photos from Uncle Carl's time in Germany  with the US Army, 809th Tank Destroyers,  all dated 1944-45 World War II.  He had mailed all these photos home so they are all stamped on the back "passed by Army Examiner" along with his handwritten notes. I am surprised that some were released  although I suspect that the mail took so long  to arrive stateside  that by the time the photos made it to their destinations it would have been old news shown at the movies.  So unlike today's instant in our face 24/7 from the battle zones.  I have labeled each photo in Uncle Carl's words. 

Some photos were just noted as "Germany" some Gottingen, some Gottengham and  others Guttenghamn.  Likely Uncle Carl wasn't certain or careful of the spelling if he even knew it.   I Googled and found Gottingen Germany today, a very old city in what was the Saxony region and home of a noted University.  According to Wikipedia, (not to be confused with the notorious Wikileaks)  "The origins of Göttingen lay in a village called Gutingi. This village was first mentioned in a document in 953. The city was founded between 1150 and 1200 to the northwest of this village and adopted its name. In medieval times the city was a member of the Hanseatic League and hence a wealthy town.  The University of Göttingen (German: Georg-August-Universität Göttingen), known informally as Georgia Augusta, is a university in the city of Göttingen, Germany.   Founded in 1734 by King George II of Great Britain and the Elector of Hanover, it opened for classes in 1737." 

1944  Yanks to Germany

That first  photo, by  his writing makes me think the 809th TD Battalion had not yet arrived in Germany.  It does not state where they were but I am thinking surely they did not have to walk/march all the way to Germany.  This is the Battalion and a lively group they are.  Somehow my Uncle had his camera on the ready.   This next photo of  two unidentified soldiers merely had Yanks, as the label below.  I think the man on the left may be in other photos and I will have to see if his name is revealed.  I am wondering if these were Americans or Brits, simply because he used the term "Yanks." 

What little  my Uncle would tell me of his War experiences, he was very fond of the Brits who served with and  among them.  While he  never wanted to return to Europe, instead spent his travel hunting and fishing and being with his Army buddies at reunions, his wife Aunt Marge traveled with her sisters, but only to Spain, Italy and  Portugal.  He said he had seen enough to last him a lifetime.


Germany  train held

This photo does not identify where in Germany, but since all the rest are in "Gottingen" I suspect this might  be there as well.  The photo of the train and several below were all taken May 12, 1945 according to his notes.  Evidently they were occupying the buildings and the town.   
German Ammunition plant blown up by our Air Force. Along side of where we stay

This is the building where I stay now you can see where the bombs hit


 The above photo had no name on the back, my limited knowledge of German tells me this was off limits.  I think this man may be in other photos and may be identified later.


Airplane engines that were left behind by the Germans
 
Corporal  Sims, our mailman, Cpl. Lowe, our medic, and Sgt. Slick
Carl in the rubble pipes to salvage

When I look at this photo of my Uncle in the "rubble" I think, that being Teofil's son, he would scrounge and save every bit of whatever might be useful at whenever for whoever would need it.  I suppose it was a relief to be merely picking and gathering instead of leading the seek and destroy mission.    


German plane destroyed by the Yanks

 This last photo with only a few of the men from the 809th at their reunion in  Greensboro North Carolina in 1973.  Uncle Carl was president of the Reunion Committee for several years and arranged many of these events.  ; he is seated in the center holding the tank destroyer's battalion logo.  He never missed a reunion until the years caught up with him and as with others traveling was not on the agenda.  He may be one of the oldest survivors now at 92.  He was proud but quiet about those years, a patriot as were all those  men. I remember him saying  "It was a suicide mission.  Well it was OK for those of us who survived...."

As usual click on the title to this post to go to the Sepia Saturday international host site.  From there you can browse what others have shared this week. 

 

11 comments:

  1. Wow, great photos. Really fascinating bit of history.

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  2. Very interesting family history story, Pat and the photos were simply amazing as well. It's nice that you know so much of your family's history.

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  3. A very interesting set of photos, what shocking experiences your uncle must have had. the friendships formed during that terrible time would have been lifelong I should imagine.

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  4. Simply an extraordinary photo essay. And a mitzvah to preserve and share them, to remind us. Thank you so much for the post, and I will be sure to show it to my husband.

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  5. These photos tell a great story, Pat. You must be very proud of your Uncle Carl.

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  6. I was in eighth grade when the the U.S. entered the war, December 1941. I graduated high school in 1946. All through that period, until the Japanese surrendered, I was planning on enlisting in the navy upon graduation. Three older cousins from Oregon had enlisted right after Peartl Harbor. One was Army air force (The Air Force as a separate branch of the military had not been established yet) and was deplowed to Great Britain. One was army and spent most of his hitch on a south pacific island, reloading and maintaining guns on aircraft. The third was Navy, assigned to the cruiser "Raleigh" which had been damaged at Pearl harbor but repaired and recommisioned. As San Francisco was the home port of the Raleigh he visited us whenever the ship put in for repairs or resupply. He.s the one who said, "As long as you have your ship under you, you have hot meals and you don't sleep in a hole in the mud." Of course, it wasn't perfect as they had problems with weavels etc and after awhile at sea they started baking brown bread so they weren't so obvious. Also, every time he visited he was starving for fresh fruits and vegetables. Still better than C rations, though. :-) Tom

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  7. Thanks for the comments, glad my Sepia readers recognize the history in these...that's what amazes me along with how they traveled by mail to the states and survived all these years.

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  8. Intriguing set of photos, thanks!

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  9. These are really interesting photographs. For me it's rare to see private photos. I can imagine why most of the men who served didn't talk much about the war when they returned home.

    On the other side of the war, there's a blogger who's transcribing her great-grandmother's London war diaries at http://womanlondonblitz.blogspot.com/. Very interesting.

    Thanks for sharing your uncle's photos with us.

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  10. A fascinating trove of photos and the stories that go with them. So interesting.

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  11. interesting mementos of a dreadful time.
    well done!!
    :)~
    HUGZ

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